I love what Jay did, coming into the game and being one of the best rappers, then taking it to the next level as a business. I love Pac because he was revolutionary, he was militant. Rakim As long as my name is in there, I don't care who else is on the list! I love Biggie, he said a lot of things I couldn't say. Guide Do you respect the other rappers in those countdowns, people like Nas, Eminem, Notorious BIG, 2Pac, Jay-Z … ? Rakim You don't want it to get to your head, but you've got to respect the title that people give you. Rakim, you often figure high in those lists. Guide In rap circles, there's an obsession with who is the 'GOAT' – the Greatest Of All Time. Tapes of Cold Crush 4, Treacherous Three and Grand Wizard Theodore would circulate, and I'd be clamouring to understand this rap shit. I thought I was flash, so I loved DJing, but the MC got all the attention, so I switched over. Rakim I'd see the MC come up to the park, grab the mic and start rockin'. I looked at how he got control of the rave, just from his voice and what he played. Wretch My dad was a reggae DJ, and one day he took me to see him on the mic. The Fatback Band's King Tim III was the first rap record. Rakim My mother sang jazz and opera – she even performed at the Apollo on Amateur Night. Guide Did you both have musical childhoods? It's a privilege to be able to hear how it started.

Later, I found myself going back to older stuff, people like, Sugarhill Gang and Run DMC. When you're young it's the catchiest stuff that catches your ear. Wretch Being 26, I got memories of my dad listening to hip-hop. When I was small, I was a fan of cartoon characters – now the cartoon characters are rapping!

I can't look at TV without seeing something that's been influenced by rap. I'm just glad that it's circulating all over the world, because I used to hear: 'Rap's a fad, it will probably be dead in 10 years, like jazz.'

There was an integrity that people respected.

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